Content creators still finding ways to use our work
We shut down decoy operations in 2019, but the work we did has continued to live on in various "To Catch a Predator"-focused communities and YouTube channels that have sprung up over the last decade. As bewildering as it might seem, the work we started doing back in 2003 and the series of Dateline NBC specials we created starting in 2004 continues to live on and educate people regarding the dangers of letting your kids talk randomly with strangers online.
Yeah, it's kind of weird and definitely surprising all these years later, but ultimately, quite cool that the work our volunteers did is still serving a purpose.
In 2024, a newer YouTube channel started doing long-form readings and breakdowns of the chat-logs that we posted over the years. Unlike much of the content based on our work created in the last decade, the channel focuses not only on chats that were done during the "To Catch a Predator" years and also chat-logs and conversations that were not part of the Dateline NBC series.
If you're interested in detailed readings and breakdowns of the work we did from 2003-2019 with elements of adult gallows humor thrown in, check out Morticia's Chat-log Channel (18+). Found it to be a refreshing enough presentation that a couple databases with non-posted chat content, unheard phone recordings, and other material were provided for the first time ever, meaning there is actually some content on that channel which even our organization had not originally posted back in the day.
Looking for data: archivist@pjfi.org
Looking for general contact: admin@perverted-justice.com
Note: Might take a few days to a week for a reply depending on the request.
Without social networking, most socializing online when we started up happened in large chat rooms on the networks of the major players at the time. MSN chats, AOL chats and Yahoo chats. Thusly, we set ourselves up to put decoy profiles into those chats, mostly focusing on regional chat rooms to deal with the issue of adults preying on minors online.
When we started, there were few laws on the books across the country against trying to solicit a child online, we even wrote the majority of one law and testified in front of a few state legislatures to get them to catch up to the internet era. With our early work doing stings with local media, the issue came to national prominence. That culminated in NBC's "To Catch a Predator" series where millions upon millions became aware of the widespread problem of adults attempting to sexually assault minors they met online. That work led to hundreds of convictions and laws across the country being enacted to deal with this issue.
Meanwhile, the element we were inspired to work, chat rooms, all died off. Some due to the fact that the attention and trouble caused by the media exposure of internet predators had made them unattractive to continue operating. Others died off later on as social networking made them obsolete. Few remnants of the chat-room era of the internet still exist at this point.
As the internet changed, elements like twitter and social networking in general has spread the problem wide and thin. Internet predators are no longer confined to mostly a few deep wells as they were when we started up. Internet access for younger generations is ubiquitous, they're connected at an earlier age each year with technology in their hands that far exceed the power of PC's we used when starting this website long ago.
In many ways, this can be viewed positively or negatively. With far more varied activities online, there's fewer places where everyone congregates. This means that a potential predator cannot just sit in an online room and talk up every young adult that enters with ease. Also positively, people are well aware of the risk of arrest when doing so as every state has a law on the books and TCAP is well known among adults at this juncture.
Negatively, this does mean that a determined adult wanting to molest kids can make use of technology to try to ensure that he's actually talking to a child. It means the challenge of "patrolling" the internet for such activity is also far more difficult, given the immense explosion of social activity websites and apps that have popped up since the origins of our site.
As we've grown older, we're less able to keep up technologically. With every kid having access to an internet connected camera, the challenges of convincingly portraying children online has evolved away from "everyone being able to" to requiring extremely young looking adults over the age of 20 to be able to do so effectively.
We're sure that there's a way to run a site like this in this era, where you can still generate a decent amount of caseload. Police nowadays are far more open to talking to citizens with information than they were back when we started, due to the work and foundation we established with the 99% conviction rate that our work led to, all across the country. It will be up to future generations to figure out the best way to efficiently get internet predators arrested, and to figure out the best way to use newer technologies to fake being underage convincingly.
We'd like to thank every volunteer over the years, from the people doing content creation to make our profiles convincing enough to get arrests, to the phone verifiers that sounded young to further cement our work, and to the chat-log contributors who did the boring, arduous and often disturbing work of getting these guys arrested. When we started, some idiots online said we wouldn't get one conviction. We ended with at least 623 that we know of. The real number is probably around 650, as I never went back and posted write-ups for all the research convictions we achieved of people we exposed in online pedophile communities.
In April or May of 2019, the website will likely change to a simple write-up with notes on the work that was done here and a removal of most site features, including the archive, forums and the like. However, we're going to try to do one last thing to make sure the work of our volunteers lives on and hopefully helps lay a further foundation for technology in the future.
Over the last five years especially, we've had dozens of researchers from colleges and projects across the western world asking for permission to use our data from the website, and we've always given permission to use chat logs on our website for any project they're doing. We have many, many more thousands upon thousands of chat conversations archived that never saw the light of day because they never rose to a level of prosecution. Our last goal now that we're stopping active operations is to compile that work in a dataset that we'll be able to share going forward for research.
If you have any need of material on the site for custody issues or the like, be sure to screenshot and save the material in question that you might need. For requests of information, permission requests or anything else, feel free to email admin@perverted-justice.com with a clear and concise write-up of what you want.
Thanks,
Xavier Von Erck
Founder, Perverted-Justice.com
It was Deck's hope that he would escape conviction so many years later, that a technicality would enable him to do so. However, our work has stood the test of time, one last time. His original arrest was twelve years ago and his chat-log was one of the most disturbing we had ever posted.
In mid-December 2018, the retrial saw Deck convicted again, easily, without issue. This should be our last remaining piece of work that was still bouncing around the courts, and it's very nice to wrap our caseload up with re-affirming this important conviction. It's great that the courts did not let him walk simply due to the fact that he was formerly an officer of the law.
We've been getting convictions now since our first conviction... way... way... way back in summer 2004! On average, 50 convictions a year for twelve years now. For those of you who only know us from "To Catch a Predator", we were working hard before TCAP and we're working hard after TCAP.
If anyone contacts you with such a scenario, they are breaking the law and you should immediately contact police regarding the extortion attempt. Our organization works with police to get sexual predators arrested, we do not appreciate attempts by scam artists to use our name in order to make a quick buck. Pay them nothing and call the police to report any attempt at extortion.
Speaking from experience in getting internet predators arrested... no matter the medium involved in the online criminal attempt, servers such as Yahoo, Microsoft, Google will work with police to track people who break the law down for arrest and prosecution.
In November 2015, while we were working an area in rural New York for the purposes of getting some arrests, Edward hit up one of our decoys using the screenname "aGreatGuy."
For the next few weeks, he slowly worked at befriending our 13 year old decoy, before moving on to talk of a sexual nature. However, due to the distance and Edward's paranoia, he was unwilling to make the trip over to New York. This meant our contact there was unable to arrest him, due to Edward living in Massachusetts.
During the conversation, Rozmiarek made no attempt to hide his profession, openly and honestly talking about his job as a principal. In most cases doing decoy work, we often feel like we can take months and months to hold conversations... but after it became apparent that Rozmiarek wasn't going to travel to New York, we knew we had to contact local law enforcement in his area.
We contacted the Beverly Police Department in Massachusetts and gave them our evidence so they could launch whatever investigation they felt appropriate. They worked with the district employing Rozmiarek to ensure he would no longer be working there and then searched his house.
The DA in Massachusetts has declined to prosecute, citing that Massachusetts law requires active enticement to Massachusetts, which the log doesn't have. Because we couldn't get him to cross into New York, he couldn't be arrested. Since he didn't offer or want to take the decoy across state lines into Massachusetts, he couldn't be arrested.
Had Rozmiarek been in most other states, he could have been arrested. In most states, simply communicating sexually with someone you believe to be a minor IS a crime. Unfortunately, the laws do vary greatly from state to state. There is little uniformity across the country in regards to this issue, from what constitutes an offense to the amount of time someone will serve.
Hopefully in the future Massachusetts will strengthen their laws and make it so the act of conversing sexually with a minor is prosecuted in a manner consistent with most of the rest of the country.
For now though, the outcome that Edward Rozmiarek has been fired, that the media has reported why, and now that his words and actions online have been documented... he won't get his dream job of being a principal of an elementary school.
The entire conversation can be found at the this link: Edward Rozmiarek conversation
Yeah, it's kind of weird and definitely surprising all these years later, but ultimately, quite cool that the work our volunteers did is still serving a purpose.
In 2024, a newer YouTube channel started doing long-form readings and breakdowns of the chat-logs that we posted over the years. Unlike much of the content based on our work created in the last decade, the channel focuses not only on chats that were done during the "To Catch a Predator" years and also chat-logs and conversations that were not part of the Dateline NBC series.
If you're interested in detailed readings and breakdowns of the work we did from 2003-2019 with elements of adult gallows humor thrown in, check out Morticia's Chat-log Channel (18+). Found it to be a refreshing enough presentation that a couple databases with non-posted chat content, unheard phone recordings, and other material were provided for the first time ever, meaning there is actually some content on that channel which even our organization had not originally posted back in the day.
Contact Information for Data
Looking for data: archivist@pjfi.org
Looking for general contact: admin@perverted-justice.com
Note: Might take a few days to a week for a reply depending on the request.
Ceasing Decoy Operations
Without social networking, most socializing online when we started up happened in large chat rooms on the networks of the major players at the time. MSN chats, AOL chats and Yahoo chats. Thusly, we set ourselves up to put decoy profiles into those chats, mostly focusing on regional chat rooms to deal with the issue of adults preying on minors online.
When we started, there were few laws on the books across the country against trying to solicit a child online, we even wrote the majority of one law and testified in front of a few state legislatures to get them to catch up to the internet era. With our early work doing stings with local media, the issue came to national prominence. That culminated in NBC's "To Catch a Predator" series where millions upon millions became aware of the widespread problem of adults attempting to sexually assault minors they met online. That work led to hundreds of convictions and laws across the country being enacted to deal with this issue.
Meanwhile, the element we were inspired to work, chat rooms, all died off. Some due to the fact that the attention and trouble caused by the media exposure of internet predators had made them unattractive to continue operating. Others died off later on as social networking made them obsolete. Few remnants of the chat-room era of the internet still exist at this point.
As the internet changed, elements like twitter and social networking in general has spread the problem wide and thin. Internet predators are no longer confined to mostly a few deep wells as they were when we started up. Internet access for younger generations is ubiquitous, they're connected at an earlier age each year with technology in their hands that far exceed the power of PC's we used when starting this website long ago.
In many ways, this can be viewed positively or negatively. With far more varied activities online, there's fewer places where everyone congregates. This means that a potential predator cannot just sit in an online room and talk up every young adult that enters with ease. Also positively, people are well aware of the risk of arrest when doing so as every state has a law on the books and TCAP is well known among adults at this juncture.
Negatively, this does mean that a determined adult wanting to molest kids can make use of technology to try to ensure that he's actually talking to a child. It means the challenge of "patrolling" the internet for such activity is also far more difficult, given the immense explosion of social activity websites and apps that have popped up since the origins of our site.
As we've grown older, we're less able to keep up technologically. With every kid having access to an internet connected camera, the challenges of convincingly portraying children online has evolved away from "everyone being able to" to requiring extremely young looking adults over the age of 20 to be able to do so effectively.
We're sure that there's a way to run a site like this in this era, where you can still generate a decent amount of caseload. Police nowadays are far more open to talking to citizens with information than they were back when we started, due to the work and foundation we established with the 99% conviction rate that our work led to, all across the country. It will be up to future generations to figure out the best way to efficiently get internet predators arrested, and to figure out the best way to use newer technologies to fake being underage convincingly.
We'd like to thank every volunteer over the years, from the people doing content creation to make our profiles convincing enough to get arrests, to the phone verifiers that sounded young to further cement our work, and to the chat-log contributors who did the boring, arduous and often disturbing work of getting these guys arrested. When we started, some idiots online said we wouldn't get one conviction. We ended with at least 623 that we know of. The real number is probably around 650, as I never went back and posted write-ups for all the research convictions we achieved of people we exposed in online pedophile communities.
In April or May of 2019, the website will likely change to a simple write-up with notes on the work that was done here and a removal of most site features, including the archive, forums and the like. However, we're going to try to do one last thing to make sure the work of our volunteers lives on and hopefully helps lay a further foundation for technology in the future.
Over the last five years especially, we've had dozens of researchers from colleges and projects across the western world asking for permission to use our data from the website, and we've always given permission to use chat logs on our website for any project they're doing. We have many, many more thousands upon thousands of chat conversations archived that never saw the light of day because they never rose to a level of prosecution. Our last goal now that we're stopping active operations is to compile that work in a dataset that we'll be able to share going forward for research.
If you have any need of material on the site for custody issues or the like, be sure to screenshot and save the material in question that you might need. For requests of information, permission requests or anything else, feel free to email admin@perverted-justice.com with a clear and concise write-up of what you want.
Thanks,
Xavier Von Erck
Founder, Perverted-Justice.com
Deck convicted a second time, eight years later
It was Deck's hope that he would escape conviction so many years later, that a technicality would enable him to do so. However, our work has stood the test of time, one last time. His original arrest was twelve years ago and his chat-log was one of the most disturbing we had ever posted.
In mid-December 2018, the retrial saw Deck convicted again, easily, without issue. This should be our last remaining piece of work that was still bouncing around the courts, and it's very nice to wrap our caseload up with re-affirming this important conviction. It's great that the courts did not let him walk simply due to the fact that he was formerly an officer of the law.
Conviction 600 achieved in 2016
We've been getting convictions now since our first conviction... way... way... way back in summer 2004! On average, 50 convictions a year for twelve years now. For those of you who only know us from "To Catch a Predator", we were working hard before TCAP and we're working hard after TCAP.
Note regarding site impersonators
If anyone contacts you with such a scenario, they are breaking the law and you should immediately contact police regarding the extortion attempt. Our organization works with police to get sexual predators arrested, we do not appreciate attempts by scam artists to use our name in order to make a quick buck. Pay them nothing and call the police to report any attempt at extortion.
Speaking from experience in getting internet predators arrested... no matter the medium involved in the online criminal attempt, servers such as Yahoo, Microsoft, Google will work with police to track people who break the law down for arrest and prosecution.
Massachusetts principal removed from his job
In November 2015, while we were working an area in rural New York for the purposes of getting some arrests, Edward hit up one of our decoys using the screenname "aGreatGuy."
For the next few weeks, he slowly worked at befriending our 13 year old decoy, before moving on to talk of a sexual nature. However, due to the distance and Edward's paranoia, he was unwilling to make the trip over to New York. This meant our contact there was unable to arrest him, due to Edward living in Massachusetts.
During the conversation, Rozmiarek made no attempt to hide his profession, openly and honestly talking about his job as a principal. In most cases doing decoy work, we often feel like we can take months and months to hold conversations... but after it became apparent that Rozmiarek wasn't going to travel to New York, we knew we had to contact local law enforcement in his area.
We contacted the Beverly Police Department in Massachusetts and gave them our evidence so they could launch whatever investigation they felt appropriate. They worked with the district employing Rozmiarek to ensure he would no longer be working there and then searched his house.
The DA in Massachusetts has declined to prosecute, citing that Massachusetts law requires active enticement to Massachusetts, which the log doesn't have. Because we couldn't get him to cross into New York, he couldn't be arrested. Since he didn't offer or want to take the decoy across state lines into Massachusetts, he couldn't be arrested.
Had Rozmiarek been in most other states, he could have been arrested. In most states, simply communicating sexually with someone you believe to be a minor IS a crime. Unfortunately, the laws do vary greatly from state to state. There is little uniformity across the country in regards to this issue, from what constitutes an offense to the amount of time someone will serve.
Hopefully in the future Massachusetts will strengthen their laws and make it so the act of conversing sexually with a minor is prosecuted in a manner consistent with most of the rest of the country.
For now though, the outcome that Edward Rozmiarek has been fired, that the media has reported why, and now that his words and actions online have been documented... he won't get his dream job of being a principal of an elementary school.
The entire conversation can be found at the this link: Edward Rozmiarek conversation